SCWYou seem awfully concerned with telling other people what
they're allowed to pray for - who made you the prayer police?
Good example of "faith like unto a Child(s)."😉
@DrManYou wrote: "Praying to do one's best in sports is
not the same as praying for another to lose." Childs was not
praying "to do one's best" when he prayed: "Please let the
rebounds come my way." He was praying for God to give him a competitive
advantage to help his team win and the other team lose. He also prayed not to
have fouls called on him, but he did not pray for no fouls to be called on his
"WCC refs are worse than PAC12 refs, something I did not expect to see.bluehusky:That's because you haven't seen it.
There is no such thing as conference-exclusive refs. I hate to be the one to
break old news, but the Pac12, WCC, MWC, BigWest and WAC all belong to an
alliance from which the same pool of refs are assigned. So, in any given month
one ref could call games in all 5 conferences. It's been that way for
@Steve C. Warren Praying to do one's best in sports is not the same as
praying for another to lose. Losing is the natural consequence of someone else
winning. Welcome to life. When I bid a consulting job (not sports related), I
pray that I've done my best and the client will want to hire me. This
doesn't mean that I am praying for all the other consultants to not do
their best and lose the contract. Of course, I need the Lord's help to
provide for me and family, but praying for His help does not mean that I'm
praying for Him not to help others. Same thing in sports. Prayer does not
compensate for poor preparation. And if BYU is any example, they pray at every
sporting event...and not for some teams to win and others to lose.
Re: I’m like, ‘Please let the rebounds come my way, something like
that.’ Before this game, I said, ‘Please just let me play as hard as
I can and not get fouls.’Sounds like he's wanting God to
give him some rebounds that might otherwise have gone to the other team and
increased that team's chances of winning. On the fouls thing, how about
praying that both teams play hard and avoid fouls. That would make for a fairer
and better game.
@Lia,I agree with DrMAN. I think sports would generally fall under the
"worthwhile pursuits" category, especially if playing it oneself rather
than spectating. I encourage my son to pray about anything that is important to
him, including that his efforts to get better at soccer can be focused. Part of
the reason I think it's an appropriate thing to do is that you are more
invested in the process yourself if you're asking for divine help. Being
proficient at anything worthwhile is good for us in many ways, and we all know
the Lord is concerned about our well-being. It isn't much different from
asking to perform well if you're at a recital if you've practiced a
lot with your musical instrument, or from asking to do well on a test when
you've given all the effort you reasonably can to know the material.
@KiaGood comment. You're absolutely right. Praying should not
be used for success in sports, especially when "success" means me
winning and someone else losing.
@LiaThat's the beauty of being omnipotent and omniscient, busy
is never a problem.Have a nice day.
@Lia I've never known the Lord to be too busy for any of the earnest pleas
of His children. If it matters to you, it matters to Him (yes, even sports
Praying should not be used for success in sports. The Lord is very busy
attending to prayers for far more meaningful things.
@DEW COUGARS - you've noticed the crazy foul calling WCC refs execute.
Against Pepperdine we saw 6 offensive fouls called on Cougars. Six! Never in my
life have I seen six offensive fouls on a team. At a game in Provo, the refs
called a foul when two Cougars were fighting each other for the ball and the
opponent was at least a foot away from them. Didn't touch the ball.I'm not saying that the refs are picking on BYU. I'm saying
that WCC refs are ... in need of improvement.WCC refs are worse than
PAC12 refs, something I did not expect to see.
BackTalk..... terrible coach because he allowed Yoeli to shoot jump shots? Did
you miss this part of the article?"[Childs] knocked down some
mid-range jumpers, something he hasn’t done much of this season.“He was good at that in high school,” Rose said. “... it was
so obvious that they weren’t going to guard him. They let him shoot
it.”No discipline? Terrible coaching? Sounds like Rose might
actually know something about the game. And a lot more than his naysayers.
Nice young man of Yoeli Child. He did well on his last game. What really strange
was both Childs and Mika were fouling too fast in 1st half at Pepperdine. Then
at SF the whole team didn't have many fouls in 1st half and no FT's
for SF (1st half). But 2nd half Mika had 4 fouls and Childs played 39 minutes
with ZERO FOULS. Maybe his prayers did answer that but this is crazy. Those Rec
WWC Referees are a mistory of what they are doing. Those ref make strange calls
to other team too and something need to be fix!Hope Yoeli is on the roll
the rest of the way in his career at BYU.
Childs certainly played a good game overall. However, Childs is
proving otherwise in practice, letting him have the freedom to shoot outside
anytime he wants without consequences is just another example of no player
discipline or accountability by coach Rose. That first air ball Childs through
up from way outside was ridiculous.In addition, just because SF
misses open outside shots (unlike Pepperdine) doesnt mean that BYU played better
defense. Hate to see it portrayed that way.
Glad he chose BYU over utah and the rest of the pac. He still makes
freshman mistakes along with the rest of the team but the future sure looks
bright for BYU as they mature.
For a young man who I understand was baptized into the church after finishing
high school last year, I find it nothing short of awesome that he intersects his
faith with his considerable athletic skills.Before he leaves Provo,
everyone in college hoops will know his name. Those long arms and big hands are
going to vacuum up huge numbers of rebounds. And the way he jams the ball thru
the hoop? Check the MC floor for dents. !
It's great that Childs was able to pray his way to a career performance. I
hope the whole team will follow this example before their next game with
Gonzaga. If they do, I predict a blowout.