"Pro set" and "pro style" are two different things. Detmer might
sometimes use a "pro set", but his philosophy is "pro style". He
uses a pro style offense, because that's what he knows, not because
it's better at the college level: there's actually a reason why most
college teams employ a spread option of one variety or another. QBs read a
defense pre-snap not to identify "multiple defensive looks" but to
identify the coverage the defense will be in post-snap, which then dictates the
receiver progression he uses to find an open guy. Trick for Mangum will be
spending enough time in the film room with Detmer not just identifying
coverages, but understanding how a competent defensive coordinator will hide
them. Once he gets good at that, the game "slows down".
t's all about reading defenses.
Prepare a teary eyed defeat speech (ala Beck) for when you lose to the Utes.
I'm in agreement with @runnerguy50 - Also, after a few (too many) starts
and stops for Tanner Mangum, "Taysom-Derangement" is finally over and
we, as fans, can get down to a well deserved "Tanner-Mania"! I'm
looking forward to the Cougs having a stellar year with Tanner at the helm. What
should he be working on? Passing, passing and more passing...to anyone who can
catch a ball!
What should be on BYU QB Tanner Mangum's to-do list this offseason? That
Ty opens up the offense and spreads it, so we don't throw 90% of his passes
between 2 and 6 yards.
@65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, IDFeb. 16, 2017 9:16 a.m."Mangum doesn't have to do much to improve the quarterback position
from 2016 to 2017. All he has to do is throw accurate passes and throw passes
that are longer than 9 yards."......and not take 30 yard sacs
like in the bowl game or throw too many interceptions. We'll see how that
goes. I hope he plays within the offense and doesn't try too much for the
big play as that seems to be when the mistakes happen.
Tanner Mangum is an amazing QB.He has "it".The
QB at sc has the same "it".It=Making plays.Defending Tanner and the boys will be a nightmare for DC's.Good luck to Tanner,Hope he/they has/have an off-day against the
BYU pre-season is always my favorite. So much fun and entertainment.
Mangum doesn't have to do much to improve the quarterback position from
2016 to 2017. All he has to do is throw accurate passes and throw passes that
are longer than 9 yards.
@BlueHusky - Mission Viejo, CAFeb. 16, 2017 7:06 a.m."I'm sure Tanner will benefit from the expert advice tendered above.
LOL!"Actually these comment boards are for just that, comment
and opinion, no matter how outlandish and inaccurate, on a news article.
I'm pretty sure Mangum is getting all the advice and direction he can
handle from within the organization by people with way more experience and
making way more money than you and I.I believe the only commenter
that has direct access to a team is Chris B.
I'm sure Tanner will benefit from the expert advice tendered above. LOL!
O line struggled in 2016, though our center is great! We lost a senior OL in
August 2016 to something, none of us know the reason. I'm not a Tom
Brady fan, yet he makes it look easy like Joe Montana did, lobbing passes here
and there, taking away the physical nature of the game, and spacing it out,
match ups, space and time. Why not put QB back in the punter position on many
downs, make the heavy Utah d-line, run 10-15 yards to the QB? Would this not
space things out? Few QB's would have succeeded in 2016, we did the best
we could. And it was still a great season.
Runner,Let it go. Live in the now. Sitake and Detmer know what they
are doing. I hate to admit it, but azure has made good points that were proven
out. Hopefully with a better o line and receivers he will have time. Get ready for running the ball 50% of the time just like last year. Be patient
and take what's given. Unlike two years ago, Hail Marys should
not. E one of your most productive plays each game.
With a much improved o-line and more time to run through his receiver
progressions, Tanner is going to have a great season.
I am not sure he has what it takes. He is prone to Interceptions, that will end
our drives, put a tired defense on the field, and cause us to lose at least 3
games to his mistakes, but his bombs may win one back. I don't see the
coaching staff actually giving the other prospects a real shot at starting or a
fair look to see if they are a better fit for the pro set offense. He may learn
for next year but his year will be a long one. He just doesn't have that
eye of the tiger, he has to want it a lot more, obtain that drive exhibited by
the likes of Young. Another 8 and 5 year, and that's if we learn.
I'm not much at dissecting the nuances of the game, but what I thought was
apparent in both seasons was his propensity to throw short to receivers who were
running routes away from the QB. His two "longest" passes in the bowl
game were both caught but the receivers had to adjust back to the ball. With
rare exception, that happened a lot the year before. (I do not subscribe to the
notion he was throwing to the tall receivers and letting them out jump the
defense on post or fly patterns.)
Develop some pocket presence.
W/that O-line & WR corps, tm'll be fortunate to make it out of
September in one piece, since he clearly can't run.There's
a reason he rode the pine last year....Merely ask ks/td privately &
they'd confirm this fact.
80% of the time Tanner rolls right and locks into one receiver . Everyone knows
How about relax, enjoy your college experience, date, find a balance in life and
visit you family often.
The coaching staff did a poor job by sitting TM last year. You could have had a
returning qb with eyes on the NFL.
Jonah could be the third fastest receiver this year. Maybe a good sign. Tanner
needs to work on wind sprints as LSU and Wisconsin will be chasing him all over.
Throwing to running backs will help also. Next eat kryptonite for breakfast,
lunch and dinner! Exercise the right index finger to flash the number one sign!
@65TossPowerTrapAgreed. Use the tight ends. And get the ball to
Is he going to have very good recievers this next year? If they can not get
separation or bring in the ball it will be a long year. How about an article on
Here's a suggestion for Mangum - make your tight ends' hands sore by
throwing them a bazillion passes.